(I Wasn’t Supposed To Hear This) We Found A Secret Conversation on This Tape...

#14- [(I Wasn’t Supposed To Hear This) We Found A Secret Conversation on This Tape...] - February 27th 2021 (filmed February 12th 2021)


 * They start the episode off by giving Michael the tape so he can digitalize it.
 * After giving Michael the tape they look at reddit.
 * Michael says it's done, they go down to him, and they hear what follows:


 * Wesley Nathanial is "WN"
 * Deborah is "D"


 * WN: you wanted to speak with me?


 * D: Really? After not seeing me for a week, that's how you're going to address me? ... What's wrong?


 * WN: It didn't work.


 * D: What didn't work.


 * WN: Nelson... I talked to him for hours and it just... it didn't seem to make a difference


 * D: Well, of course it didn't...


 * WN: what?


 * D: Talking to him was never going to be the solution to this problem.


 * WN: What? excuse me? Then why did you tell me?


 * D: You needed to hear it for yourself... you needed to see how unreasonable he is with your own eyes. I know you've known him for a long time, you care about him and the dream you two created. It blinded you.


 * WN: Why are you saying it like that? I thought you were trough manipulating me in that way.


 * D: I'm not manipulating anything.


 * WN: Yes, you are. It's just how you are because of what you do.


 * D: You still don't get it, this whole company is rotting from the inside out, all under his stewardship. It needs to stop now, before he hurts more people.


 * WN: How am I supposed to believe that if you refuse to show me what's really going on?


 * D: Because I have to protect you somehow! If he's gone, you can finally take the place you need. My projects will finally be seen in a positive light. We won't have to hide in his shadow anymore.


 * WN: That's not the real reason.


 * D: Yes it is.


 * WN: Maybe it's part of it, but there's something underlying there. You're trying to save yourself too. You're doing this for you, and your own work.


 * D: Of course I am, but...


 * WN: What else can I believe at this point? Nelson won't listen to me about the trials but he also keeps telling me that you're only in it for your own glory, that you've been manipulating me, that you could stop the trials at any point and make them more humane. How am I supposed tell him otherwise when you keep hiding things from me?


 * D: You know what's going to happen. You know what he'll do to you.


 * WN: But you haven't proven that. I've known Nelson for years, I can't imagine him...


 * D interrupts: Listen to me, if we don't get rid of him, he's going to get rid of us. I'm just trying to stay one step ahead of him.


 * WN: By sabotaging him? You do realize it's not just him that that will probably hurt.


 * D: It's necessary.


 * WN: To get rid of him?


 * D: You know it's the right thing to do


 * WN: Never seen you like this D.


 * D: Like what.